On getting a spot in the bachelor degree so I went the back way and I did biomedical science got three Adelaide uni and I finished that and then went straight into my masters.

Of Dietetics right yeah yeah and did you then convert that to a PhD or did you do a PhD on you go and do that on top of that on top of so at that stage I didn’t quite know what I wanted to do in nutrition I always loved sport and always been quite active myself you’re super fit Tom’s crazy I never really played a lot of chains for it’s just always.

Been like training yeah love training and and um always been a massive footy fans know been a big supporter of sport but I always knew that was a passion of mine that’s the degree the nutrition and diet any.

Degrees quiet focused on clinical Dietetics so working in the hospital settings and though really gear you up to head.

Down that career yeah so at that stage I thought well that’s.

What I want to do as a full-time career there’s not much in sports nutrition and that was available and I really.

Loved pediatrics and working in the clinical Pediatrics space so after University I got it was quite difficult to get a job but I got a part-time job in Women’s and Children’s Hospital in Adelaide and then Pat I’m doing some community Dietetics and started up my own private practice as well and that private practice was focused more in sports and so I went through and I did my accreditation to become a sports dietitian.

Which at that stage was run at the AIS and Geoffrey got there yeah see you there for four days to do that calls and then there’s a few things.

You have to follow up from there so I did that and then just tried to get into.

Sports as much as I could as far as my on the side of what I was doing in the hospitals and whatnot um.

And what does the hospital work consists of a mask yeah of course and so a clinical dietitian you’re on the wards so you know you would every day would be something different you would get referrals to.

Go and see new patients and in the pediatric hospital I was working on the burns ward so when kids come in with different stages of burns you would need look after the nutrition behind that.

And so it was a lot so it was it was a crazy piece each other so I’m always with questions yeah so with burns what’s the emphasis what’s the news because it wouldn’t have occurred to me people listening that there’s nutritional support.

For healing with burns absolutely yeah so energy requirements go up almost twofold yes the stress reaction and and obviously yo your body’s extremely dehydrated so that comes into it a lot and a lot of the kids because they are so small you knew that they and they actually can’t eat much at that stage so it was.

All true because it’s don’t much like okay my kid today and especially.

When they’ve gone through something so horrific I’m sorry it’s around getting the formulas.

Right for true feelings and make sure that you meet all of.

Their requirements at that stage.

And again that would depend on the severity of the burn as to how much impact that has so that’s pretty high precision stuff that’s not that’s not stuff you you don’t to get that wrong absolutely yeah sure your early stuff was it wasn’t like he was easing your way into it no it was um yeah it was during the deep.

End pretty quickly and I guess at that stage that I just thought there’s.

Something missing in in what I was doing day to day I guess it was a very reactive type of.

Role but I felt like you know I was coming in and doing the same thing over and over and I wasn’t I guess I’m interested in that in finding out more about why things happen in the prevention of things so that’s what I thought you know I’d never thought I would be interested in research I thought after University I was done.

With it and didn’t want to read another paper again but after about a year out I realized that I really craved at any misstep because I’d come from such a science background.

And there was a opportunity at women’s and children’s.

To do a PhD in the area of maternal and infant nutrition sorry and that path that I went down as far as my PhD guys and I continue to stay in the area of sports I got a role with one of the.

Central leagues so that’s equivalent to the VFL in South Australia so I worked with the Roosters there and my private business grew and that was.

Really focused on working with athletes hmm and so how the leap from that yes so the PhD went for three and a half or so years is that four years that’s pretty good some people take longer yeah some.

People take longer some people take shorter time but during that time I guess when I reflect on that period of my life it was a really enjoyable period that are doing around the PhD was very stressful and a lot of work but.

The networks and the contacts that I was able to make and I started lecturing at the University I worked it’s research coordinator I.

Really go you know grew in the sport space so he allowed me to have that flexibility as well to get my hands and a few different things and then towards the end about.

My husband got a job in Melbourne and he just happened to be timing.

While I was finishing up my PhD and.

I thought well it’s the time when I.

Had been looking for more of a full-time role in Adelaide and either going working more full-time in my private business or looking for a research space job but a short-term contract that Deakin came up so I thought well but I try and apply for it and it was a maternity.

Leave position and I actually didn’t get that position it was a 12-month job so I thought that’s okay but I had very good feedback from the interview and a couple of months passed and my husband’s job that he got here there were quite flexible so they said.

It’s it’s here into this period which is around six months that we would have yeah it was really good because my my only thing I said was that I need to have a job before I go there because.

I’m just I work a lot and I love to sitting around the hair you would go great yes yes so I said I need to have a job so then.

I contacted exactly right and that’ll be scary very scary so I contacted the head of school.

Time he interviewed me and just said is there anything going at Audrey research assistant work just something to get me over here and I actually found a short-term and a three-month full-time contract to do some teaching and so I thought why not so I I came over and and I really put everything.

I met as many people at Ian’s as I could and I noticed that there was.

A gap in the area of sports nutrition so we’re a school of exercise and nutrition science and we’ve got amazing exercise scientists and we’ve.

Got amazing nutritionist but there was a.

Gap in in the person that sat in between it’s great so I started to talk about that and and they were really receptive they’ve been incredible they’re very responsive yeah I serve on the on the advisory boards at school in science and I I love it.

Because it’s just really interesting and you can get to sort of see what’s going on what’s in the future and so forth but a lot.

Of what in really impressed is just how responsive they’re if you say this needs to.

Be better it just happen it’s not like ice it’s not.

Things to be a little more Glacia like pace wise they’re quite agile absolutely I really really am being so supportive and allowed me to really take the supporting tuition program to another level with deacon and build it which has been so much fun so that three month contract turned into a six month contract and then turn into a permanent role mm-hm and how soon after that did.

You start with so that all happened around June July in 2015 and I started working with the cat that next preseason side of November so I’m digging Anja long have a fantastic partnership and our support science side of the school was very much already embedded with but again the nutritionist that went was wasn’t there and it was just time II they were looking for a new dietitian.

And and it came through the contacts at the time Deacon being at the club and so that opportunity opened up it’s been really fun so that’s the part of my Deacon role which allows us to have students coming.

Placements and do some really great research projects so it just allows them allows the the work to happen between our organizations that’s great mm-hmm and then the Boomers yeah tell us.

About that so that that’s when you and I first said willing the others um what’s the difference of what so what what is.

Surprised you working with the girls compared to say with poison forty what do you what do you know what what do you knows about the boys yeah it’s a really good question um so firstly I think in as much as I enjoy working with the boys the girls are definitely more open to advice and a bit more receptive more coachable like to do what you say a little bit.

More but no III I think the biggest thing were what really surprised me from the girls working with the boomers and I work I’m now working with AFL W.

As well as the cats and and that’s.

Different again though I think what what surprised me so much about the girls are them as a Tau professional they were to start with and and.

How much knowledge they sort of had around nutrition as well so they really were.

Using the English like I want to be stronger and I want to get the best out of my performance and not that the boys don’t use that language but I guess it was a little bit of a surprise to me because I’ve worked with a lot of female athletes in the past where.

Focused so much on on that side of their performance and on the strength but more so and some body image concerns really body composition and although and that’s always.

Going to be apart absolutely I really found that the boomers girls.

And just use a different language you had.

A different mindset around it which was really quite refreshing and nice cool see yeah absolutely and I guess what’s been a big challenge now with the way that the seasons going.

With basket was just the shorter season yeah and so the way that they can play two or three games over weekend and and getting that right with how you fuel and.

Recover to then do it again so it from a performance perspective but from a recovery and injury prevention it’s getting that raise yeah I mean difficult selfishly I love it yeah.

Because it makes it our roles more important yeah like you.

Know well spaced out season you can you can not do a great job okay but my view is that these days was a new and it’s just because they tell you that the TV rights basically the TV rights shortened up the seasons I’m convinced it I think it suddenly makes what they were might have dismissed as one percenters into all of a.

Sudden all these are one percenters yes I think it changes the conversation about how you can recover what you can do and I think I mean that goes with.

Mega or receptive to that because they just you know if you’re putting you might have a game on Saturday night and then a game on Sunday morning like it’s.

Can be that time absolutely in terms of the actual technical process of your nutritional consultation can you walk us through what you do and so how how it happens yeah so the one that because yeah yeah absolutely even you know just the average you.

Know consult with an athlete absolutely so I guess from a logistics perspective equation anywhere between 45 to 60 minutes and it’s really about understanding firstly where that athlete sees themselves and what goals they have so obviously people that may want to.

Gain muscle others that may want to.

Reduce body fat body composition and through two things that are really struggling with fatigue and so yes oh really oh that is awesome we shouldn’t have any other way yes yes I do so you need that first party eat when I first meet and I think is really bad understanding where they’re at and where what their goals are and and building that rapport and getting that trust and that can actually take anywhere between five minutes depending on.

Are through to spreading and good 15 20 minutes understanding.

Them and and what they’re about do you get trained that did you get trained at that or that talent you have um we know you’re really good at like what that’s one of the things I notice is it you’re not just yes I think one of the failings can be that people will have this wonderful scientific background.

And I will just kind of set what the science says you should and.

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